Toledo defensive coordinator Jon Heacock named interim head coach

[Penguin Nation]

Who says history never repeats itself.  If named the permanent HC, it will be fascinating to watch the following seasons unfold.  It could be a chance for JH to redeem himself...or dismember another winning program.


http://www.si.com/college-football/2015/11/29/toledo-rockets-jon-heacock-interim-head-coach-matt-campbell

http://wkbn.com/2015/11/29/source-heacock-to-be-named-interim-for-campbell-at-toledo/

[Penguin Nation]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

[guinpen]

I would be shocked if he gets the job full time. He is a great guy and a good D coordinator, just not head coach material.

[IAA Fan]

That is fine Nation. However, you have to believe coach H was a failure. I have never known him to be a failure at any position. In fact everyone knows he was expected to replace Cam at Indiana, which was the major reason he was dismissed by Cam, who (in turn) suffered the same fate a year later. Heacock will get serious consideration for the job and rightfully so. Peter principle does not apply. Coach H is now considered a veteran coach ...I am certain that UT will be looking for someone about 20-years younger. I hope he gets it.

[YSUGO]

Heacock just couldn't pull the trigger on some sub par assistants.  We were paying all of them pennies on the dollar so the quality assistants wouldn't apply.  I liked him and he represented YSU well and ran a clean program.
He followed a legend and a HOF coach which no matter what he did the pressure had to be huge.  He got screwed out of getting us in one time and if we wouldn't have had the fumble against Marshall I think we would have qualified then too.  I wish him success!

[ysubigred]

Heacock did more with less than the previous clown (Wolford) and the jury is out on BP?!? 1st year not so good 

[Penguin Nation]

Wolf > JH versus UNI and P5 schools.

I'd say that JH had the same resources as JT, but the truth is JH had more....much more.  JH was handed a playoff caliber team...built and ready....all that was required was maintaining it.  JT had to build the program when he took over.

[paladin]

Yes, its funny how the cheerleaders here want to bend the truth. The good old boy crowd is alive and well.  Heacock has one thing going for him at Toledo -- as much as he dislikes recruiting , its easier to recruit at Toledo than YSU. Higher  quality athletes there than here. Bigger budget.

Still, its possible to screw that up ! 

[go guins]

Yes, its funny how the cheerleaders here want to bend the truth. The good old boy crowd is alive and well.  Heacock has one thing going for him at Toledo -- as much as he dislikes recruiting , its easier to recruit at Toledo than YSU. Higher  quality athletes there than here. Bigger budget.

Still, its possible to screw that up ! 

How do you see Toledo as "easier" recruting than YSU?  The athletes may be better, but they have to be better to compete at 1-A  Bigger budget counts only if it is bigger than competitors, which I don't think it is.  At YSU you are competing with Akron, Kent, Dayton etc for talent.  It Toledo you are competing with Big10, how do they have a "bigger budget" etc?  Again, you make no sense.

[paladin]

YSU competes against the MAC for area players. FBS vs. FCS.  Toledo competes against the MAC for players ( E. Mich. BG, C. Mich, etc )AND the LOWER B1G. That , in fact, brings in better players.  Toledo has a bigger budget than YSU. It does NOT have to be as big as low level, losing B1Gs . It competes with MAC schools with similar budgets, all bigger than YSU.  But Toledo has a winning tradition.

This is laughable -- Kent is a MAJOR losing program and still gets better players than YSU. Look at the area talent that picks Kent over YSU. Akron sucks and  yet area stars pick them over YSU.

The point is if Heacock does end up the HC there, even as much as he hates recruiting and didn't do well at it here, he should do better there  -- major program, winning tradition , FBS vs FCS, and bigger budget than YSU but same as the MAC, etc.

However, he IS capable of screwing it up. 

[Penguin Nation]

This is laughable -- Kent is a MAJOR losing program and still gets better players than YSU. Look at the area talent that picks Kent over YSU. Akron sucks and  yet area stars pick them over YSU.

This is why we need to play these schools in their house and establish ourselves as the #1 NEO D1 FB program.  The MAC East is always ranked lower than the MVFC....and Can't and Akron are the worst of the MAC East.  Let's dominate G5/FCS recruiting in NEO....and have some fun while we're at it.

What if we (God forbid) lose?  Then we get a payday and otherwise are in exactly the saem position we were in anyway.  No lose situation.

[Penguin Nation]

Nick Saban was HC at UT....it only makes sense that JH would too 

[YSU1]

Why is it we lose players to Akron and Kent.  No one goes to their games. No tradition.  No Bowl game until this year for Akron.  What is the draw.

[IAA Fan]

Wolf > JH versus UNI and P5 schools.

I'd say that JH had the same resources as JT, but the truth is JH had more....much more.  JH was handed a playoff caliber team...built and ready....all that was required was maintaining it.  JT had to build the program when he took over.

Untrue in every respect.  Duzzer was a much better HC than Tressel at that time and had great players. It is simply a matter of style. Tressel could not do squat in the OVC, which is why we went independent. Tressel then became an option offense, built up his coaching skills and moved on, leaving JH with little in terms of assistants.

[YSUFANSINCE1990]

 John Heacock is your classic great assistant and coordinator, bad head coach.  He is a follower, not a leader.  Never comfortable dealing with all the other parts of being a head coach; media, fans, boosters, public appearances, speaking and so on.  But is very good in a dark room looking at video and putting together a great defensive game plan.   Not a criticism, just a fact.

 As for why players go to MAC schools over YSU, it is Division 1 FBS, you get to play on national TV, the MAC has a weeknight ESPN package, you get to play in bowl games.   As for attendance, we don't draw much better, and we played two road games this year with less than 250 people.