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Re: 2016 Football Coaching Staff
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2016, 09:29:27 AM »
One sick individual.  I can't help but wonder where all the hatred comes from?  This clown would like nothing better than for YSU said "we're broke and closing our doors forever."  This A$$ would be posting "I told you so, I told you so" every place he could find to post something! 
Well, I hate to disappoint him, but JT has the university on much improved finical footing and it is getting nothing but better.  Enrollment is up, endowment is up, revenue is up and expenses are down.  The general fund balance has improved by 111% from just 2015 to 2016.  I also see above the average increases in athletic expenses, but expenses are growing at a much slower rate than athletic revenue.  Expenses for 2016 +3.2% and Revenue + 8.9%
All this is going to make Paladin a sad guy.  Now let’s make the damn playoffs and really ruin his day!
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Re: 2016 Football Coaching Staff
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2016, 02:41:51 PM »
Dan's quick hits:

1. Yes Paladin is banned. He was not warned this time, as he is lucky to be on here in the first-place. Stop making him out to be something Nation, he is a moron and always has been. Just as banning him does not change reality ...saying something does not make that a reality either. The difference between yourself and Paladin is that you flavor your disdain for certain people with wisdom, Paladin does not. However, having a mind does not make everything you say correct ...just as me starting this board does lend anymore credence to some of my opinionated and less-than-knowledgeable comments.

2. Neither the OC, MBB coach, or AD are controversial. You just do not like them. Which is fine. The OC does not run a traditional smash-mouth YSU offense; but he produces points and (last year aside) we certainly have had less than stellar defenses in the past 6-years. The MBB coach is doing everything that he can with what he has and we could not even hope to find anyone nearly as good with the investment that we have made. The idea that upping the salary to $200k will produce better results is a bad one as well (not yours Nation), as we will not see any improvement in coaching quality under the $300k to $500k mark. This will mean a couple of very expensive assistants as well. I really wish we would dump money into the program and keep Slocum in-charge just to show certain people what he can do. The AD has been stellar in my opinion. We ignored so much for so long, yet we have been able to address these issues without closing our doors.

3. The athletic department is actually doing well, but revenues are down & football is not picking up all of the costs anymore ...but we are still in good shape & you really have to credit Strollo's financial sense and his ability to work cooperatively.

4. Paladin's idea that we have some sort of "good ole boy" system is not true ...I wish it was. It was that way when Tressel was AD for about 5-years & Malmusar...things were smooth. Now Strollo has to fight for every nickel (as any AD does) and he has truly been the first YSU AD to have to do this. We have really only had 2 AD's; the first one was incompetent (Malmusar) ...Tressel was an on-the-cheap hire, given a stipend of $15k - then up to $50k. He did not even have time to learn the job, so he just focused on football and the new conference.


In short, YSU has always been able to make something out of nothing and you can credit the "good ole boy" system for that. Look at coach Duzzer ...working his back-side off and the result was "the Ice Castle". Back then, the university was not the athletic department's friend by a long-shot. The AD at YSU (and probably many other universities) has to be hated by everyone ...the business community (as he is always asking for money) and the academic community (for basically the same reason). Yet, we all have to assume that someone knows what they are doing and it is not president Tressel. It is Ron Strollo. Maybe we will find our trust is misplaced, but Strollo has done nothing to show us this.
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Re: 2016 Football Coaching Staff
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2016, 03:51:56 PM »
It's all been said...I can't bear to rehash it no mo'

I thought JT was paid at least another $100K as AD...I thought he went from ~$150k to ~$250k as AD/HC....I could be wrong.

Let's make it interesting.....if Slocum posts a winning HL record in the next two years.....then I will post a topic titled "Jerry Slocum is a good HC" at that time.....but only if you agree if he doesn't, then you must post a topic titled, "Jerry Slocum is NOT a good HC."  No run to the sweet sixteen, no NIT invite....just a winning conference record in either of the two upcoming seasons.

Do you accept?
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Re: 2016 Football Coaching Staff
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2016, 07:04:15 AM »
I cannot accept your offer, as there is no way for me to validate my opinion, which is fine. Even a run to the NCAA would not be enough to overcome his record ...everyone knows that.

As to JT. I don't think he ever made above $140k total in any season. We did not have post-season bonuses at that point. I think it was about half-way through coach H's tenure that I think those came on. I know that JT did not make $100k until his first year as AD. I think we hired him for $70k. I remember reading that he renewed early for $79k. I would have to dig back to find out. I will see what I can find.

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« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2016, 10:40:01 AM »
I suppose those were competitive numbers "in the day," but today it reads like we should have been wearing a mask, stealing JT with those kind of numbers!  Good grief, did he donate more to the WATTS that we paid him!?!?
We should have hired him as Pres. out of gratitude alone, not to mention the GREAT job he is doing.

Regarding Slocum.  I am late to this subject and am confused.  Do we hate him because he is: 1. a bad coach. 2. a bad person 3. both or 4. a good guy and good coach but bad recruiter? 
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« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2016, 11:22:28 AM »
I hate him because he dresses like a carnival barker and smells like cabbage.
"These two cats that we played against from Youngstown State were as good of pass rushers as I've seen"

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« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2016, 01:41:33 PM »
I hate him because he dresses like a carnival barker and smells like cabbage.
Sorry I didn't list that as one of my options.  I'm sure I would have thought of your choices if I had spent a few additional minutes composing my questions!
Now I understand.  I hate people who dress like carnival barkers, and especially the ones that smell like cabbage!
I much prefer coaches like BP, who dress like a retail stock clerk and smell like lasagna
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Re: 2016 Football Coaching Staff
« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2016, 02:16:57 PM »
  Profit margin on athletics is a little misleading.  They would have been in the red had it not been for Ohio State having to pay YSU a buyout of a game we had scheduled with them this year.  So, really we had two money payouts, Pitt and Ohio State.

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Re: 2016 Football Coaching Staff
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2016, 03:19:04 PM »
  Profit margin on athletics is a little misleading.  They would have been in the red had it not been for Ohio State having to pay YSU a buyout of a game we had scheduled with them this year.  So, really we had two money payouts, Pitt and Ohio State.

That is true, OSU agreed to pay us the difference

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« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2016, 03:21:09 PM »
Technically, it was for a game scheduled in 2015, and they only paid us the difference (as IAA pointed out) from what we would have made if we played them vs what Pitt paid us. So we didn't exactly have two money games, but it did increase our profit margin from the one by 100k~

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« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2016, 05:20:16 PM »
I heard two accounts of the totals. The Vindy reported (but only a Scalzo tweet) that OSU was to pay us $750k. So with the $420 that we made from Pitt ...OSU paid us and additional $330,000. Issue I haeb there is that both of these numbers seem high. I though we made $360k for Pitt? I thought OSU was to pay is $600k. IN either caser they would owe us about the same though.

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Re: 2016 Football Coaching Staff
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2016, 03:43:13 PM »
I had not previously seen that Donald D'Alesio is d-line coach. Seems a little inexperienced, but you could always tell he had a great head for the game.

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« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2016, 04:06:09 PM »
Hats off to tOSU for keeping good on the payout:

"..the Buckeyes had agreed to pay Youngstown State $750,000 for a game, but backed out in light of new Big Ten scheduling rules. Instead, the Penguins will play Pittsburgh to open the season, and will be paid $420,000. Ohio State will make up the difference to Youngstown State."


http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2015/8/13/9148007/ohio-state-football-schedule-ysu-2015
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« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2016, 09:13:34 AM »
I had not previously seen that Donald D'Alesio is d-line coach. Seems a little inexperienced, but you could always tell he had a great head for the game.
So does this make the coaching staff complete?  Sometimes it is hard to follow a thread as there are so many branch thoughts posted on each.
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« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2016, 12:30:50 PM »
I had not previously seen that Donald D'Alesio is d-line coach. Seems a little inexperienced, but you could always tell he had a great head for the game.
So does this make the coaching staff complete?  Sometimes it is hard to follow a thread as there are so many branch thoughts posted on each.

I believe so. Carl Pelini moved from D-Line to LB's.