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Re: Running QBs
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2013, 03:20:03 PM »
That would be Garry. A coaches son.

As I said, the drop off here will be extremely noticeable.

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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2013, 03:48:24 PM »
That would be Garry. A coaches son.

As I said, the drop off here will be extremely noticeable.

Drop off is coming whoever the QB is

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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2013, 03:53:20 PM »
Garry was a walk-on at BG. Pitt also talked to him about walking on. BG made a promise that if they liked his play, they would give him a scholly for his Soph. year. Never happened and he transferred here.

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Re: Running QBs
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2013, 04:01:06 PM »
Need a JUCO. The QB that left the team in the spring threw a wrench in the plan.
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2013, 04:09:57 PM »
Pat Angle is the QB you are referring to...He has Ohio Northern out to a 6-2 start.....solid stats..

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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2013, 04:38:54 PM »
Problem with bringing in a JUCO is can he learn Montgomery's offense quickly enough and take control of the offense?....

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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2013, 04:55:54 PM »
Problem with bringing in a JUCO is can he learn Montgomery's offense quickly enough and take control of the offense?....

Hess learned quickly his sophomore year didn't he?

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Re: Running QBs
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2013, 06:56:56 PM »
ive seen a few QBs YSU is targetting for next years class and a couple of them seem to be athletes/runners, and it got me thinking, has YSU ever had a real great dual threat qb?
Tidwell was a good passer and an average runner--Zwick was there at the same time and was opposite--an average passer and great runner.


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Re: Running QBs
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2013, 08:24:42 PM »
The last 2 times (02 and 08) we had to replace a 4 year starting QB it did not go well, but I feel better about it this time around with Coach M working with them.
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2013, 09:35:40 PM »
I wasn't aware they were after any H.S. QB for this upcoming class ( 2014) other than the Navarre kid. But a JUCO would not surprise me. They are in trouble at QB next year as it stands now. 2015 is far off and you haven't mentioned  anyone I see coming here.

again, try to keep up here, the 2014 class is this class, 2015 class isn't far off when its the next class.  we will probably end up with the hudson kid since he's a bit bigger then the kid from fitch and has more experiance starting and needs less polish

Are you talking about Harris from Fitch??

Yes, YSU had coaches at the game, told him work on his accuracy and he's got an offer

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« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2013, 09:37:20 PM »
Your current back-up is Nania, a player they tried to convert to S this year. He was a Wing T QB in H.S. Can run and has good arm strength and some accuracy, but short and skill set not high. He is the best we have after Hess. Both Davis and Wargo show similar problems -- questionable accuracy, arm strength, trouble with reads and no play time. I'd rate Davis the better at this point. Neither is anywhere near ready  to play next year. Davis is red-shirted and Wargo was. Garry is as good as Wargo. I rate them

Hess
Nania
Davis
tie- Garry
      Wargo

Then we have a verbal from Navarre Fairless incoming next year. He'll need to be red-shirted and in serious need of a weight program. Arm is not strong and accuracy will be severely tested. Played at a weak level of play in H.S and speed of players  will hurt him badly  here .

Only Nania could be called a dual threat. None of the QBs have much speed and Hess was only pressed to play some option this  year with some play series Montgomery put in off the same actions _- the read option, jet and play action passes of the same action. Hess now runs a speed option, which is new, going straight down the line with pitch or keep option.

YSU has recruited a QB every year Wolf has been here. Most are not working  out. Hess was a holdover from the last coach. Seems they are trying to  recruit the best they can and try to develop them. Not working out well. Talent level here now is subpar, especially in the MVFC. The level of play will seriously drop next year when Hess is gone. I don't see a running QB here next year ( unless they use Nania) and Montgomery will be challenged to control the QB to a short , control pass game to minimize INTs, incompletions on longer balls and easier reads. I's also suspect YSU will not be as balanced and focus on a run game, using the pass only as a change up. The "productive" pass game ends this year and maybe for quite a  while till they get someone better than we currently have. THat is, unless they pull in a JUCO next year. That's one possibility. 

BTW, Davis was a one year QB at Fenwick  after transferring from Moeller where he didn't get to play. Wargo was also a one year QB after riding the bench until he was a Senior. Neither  was that highly  touted, only on message boards.  Ohio is heavily recruited and neither drew much interest. Same with the current verbal from Navarre. QB next year will be an adventure.     


you really couldn't be more wrong about Davis, kids highly talented and he's probably the most talked about back up HS QB i've ever heard of when he was a Moeller, he just never got a fair chance to win the starting varsity job. he was invited to the US AA camp when he was a sophmore which only invites 250 kids or something like that

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« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2013, 09:55:11 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

AF.......... is that the best you got ? "most talked about backup" ?   "didn't get a fair chance at Moeller" ? Coach at Moeller wasn't really trying to win ?  You really are a legend in your own mind.

The truth will be known shortly.

Pass the popcorn.

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« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2013, 09:56:17 PM »
I wasn't aware they were after any H.S. QB for this upcoming class ( 2014) other than the Navarre kid. But a JUCO would not surprise me. They are in trouble at QB next year as it stands now. 2015 is far off and you haven't mentioned  anyone I see coming here.

again, try to keep up here, the 2014 class is this class, 2015 class isn't far off when its the next class.  we will probably end up with the hudson kid since he's a bit bigger then the kid from fitch and has more experiance starting and needs less polish

Are you talking about Harris from Fitch??

Yes, YSU had coaches at the game, told him work on his accuracy and he's got an offer

I've seen him play a couple of times.... Great runner, passing is ehhh

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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2013, 11:25:18 PM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

AF.......... is that the best you got ? "most talked about backup" ?   "didn't get a fair chance at Moeller" ? Coach at Moeller wasn't really trying to win ?  You really are a legend in your own mind.

The truth will be known shortly.

Pass the popcorn.

well its more informed then your opinion. he was getting college looks as a backup, says it all dont ya think?

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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2013, 11:26:11 PM »
I wasn't aware they were after any H.S. QB for this upcoming class ( 2014) other than the Navarre kid. But a JUCO would not surprise me. They are in trouble at QB next year as it stands now. 2015 is far off and you haven't mentioned  anyone I see coming here.

again, try to keep up here, the 2014 class is this class, 2015 class isn't far off when its the next class.  we will probably end up with the hudson kid since he's a bit bigger then the kid from fitch and has more experiance starting and needs less polish

Are you talking about Harris from Fitch??

Yes, YSU had coaches at the game, told him work on his accuracy and he's got an offer

I've seen him play a couple of times.... Great runner, passing is ehhh

he could also be brought in as a RB/WR/Athlete if QB doesnt work out too which could be a plan for him