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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Tressel

« on: November 27, 2019, 09:07:29 AM »

This is a fantasy land thread that had to have originated from a bar conversation over Tressel tortellini at the MVR.  If Tressel becomes President at OSU Ill turn in my three OSU diplomas.  I dont believe a university president has to have a Ph.D in this day and age but the fact that Tressel was fired from OSU for NCAA violations will disqualify him. The handling of the recent sexual assault case would raise eyebrows especially at OSU. Besides , why would he even want that job. He is the Teflon King here and its a snake pit in Columbus.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini

« on: November 12, 2019, 06:07:08 PM »

The statement was made that the Athletic Department cant be in too much financial difficulty because they are adding sports, implying that they could have the resources to buy out Pelini. My point is that adding sports adds revenue/enrollment  to the university because the fact that they funded by partial scholarships. IAA fan is right, it will also help to fill up student housing. They may also incentivize developers to continue to build new apartments. Pelini's contract may also have a buy out clause in it that is defines a fixed amount if terminated. It may also have a clause that negates any buyout if he gets another job because that job will likely pay more than what he makes at YSU, unlike what happened when he came to YSU from Nebraska. In other words, a buyout of Pelini is likely not to cost YSU much if anything unless he decides to sit and do nothing until the contract expires.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini

« on: November 12, 2019, 09:09:27 AM »

Enrollment is down and has been.  Adding sports is a way to increase enrollment.  The new mens swim/dive team is a perfect example.  Few if any of the 25 man team are on full scholarship.  Most if all would not be at YSU were it not for the new team. So they basically give a partial, probably funded by the Foundation and the student pays the rest.  The cost of the program is minimal because the facilities are in place. Its actually a money maker and an enrollment generator.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: More Bad Publicity

« on: November 11, 2019, 08:20:36 AM »

The article I posted 1st is disgusting and somebody should be fired over it.

Im the only one who commented on it, sharing your disgust.  Everyone else commented on the state of the football program. Im not sure who should be fired. These decisions are made at the top and reflect the culture created at the top.  I wouldnt want some underling thrown to the wolves to protect the President who had to have signed off on this decision.  Its the job of the President to set the moral tone for the institution and say...wait a minute, we cant do this. At the very least he should say something publically and not send out another spokesman.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: More Bad Publicity

« on: November 10, 2019, 09:09:24 AM »

C'mon. Why does Tressel get a pass? These decisions are discussed at the highest levels. Its a typical football coach mindset---create a cocoon, keep outside influences away, hope no one notices, and say as little as possible when they do.  Notice how Tressel is front and center when good things happen and no where to be found on this and everything is through a "spokesman".  The sexual assault situation is beyond embarrassing. What does it say to female students and employees? It reflects a much larger cultural problem.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini

« on: November 04, 2019, 10:39:59 AM »

Wont claim to be inside....but here are some questions, not to answer,  but should be asked by those in charge...

1. Is it a reasonable goal for YSU football to be in the top 4 of the MVFC, be a regular participant in the playoffs, and to occassionally make a deep playoff run?

2. If yes, is YSU achieving that goal?

3. If no, what is preventing YSU from achieving that goal?

4. If no, can the factors preventing YSU from achieving that goal be fixed?

5. If no to #4, should YSU either accept where it is in FCS or drop down to D2?

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini

« on: November 03, 2019, 08:01:18 AM »

True. But what has that got them? And I would bet that they are complaining that they arent getting enough to compete. 

Salary increases the chances of success but it doesnt equate to success.  It takes hard work to recruit good coaches just as it does to recruit good players.  And you have to have something to offer them. 

YSU was turned down by multiple coaches before they hired Bolden who was motivated and built the womens basketball program that was at a point far below where football is now.  Now its self sustaining. 

FInd a young D2 or D3 coach who is ambitious and dont use ties to Youngstown as a criteria.  Tressel didnt have ties to Youngstown before he got here and neither did most of his assistants.  Its no guarantee   but clearly past approaches havent worked.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini

« on: November 03, 2019, 07:21:39 AM »

With respect, I cant buy the resources argument.  The stadium and WATTS are top tier especially compared to other FCS programs. The university environment is the best its been.  Its on Pelini to find and young hire up and comers from the coaching ranks. Money isnt the issue, its having a good set up on the career ladder. They also have to want to work for him.  We've seen his personality. What does he have to offer to an aspiring coach?  Maybe the only ones who will work for him are the cronies.  It cant be harder to recruit to Youngstown than the Dakotas and Iowa and middle of Illinois.  Its not expensive to recruit Toledo, Columbus, Cincinnati and Cleveland not be mention Western PA. There is competition for talent everywhere. The idea was that players would come here because of Pelini. Maybe they arent coming here because of Pelini. 

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini

« on: October 22, 2019, 03:05:09 PM »

IAA Fan---reasonable answer that makes sense. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds, both short and long term.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini

« on: October 22, 2019, 09:12:35 AM »

On several threads, Strollo is taking the hit for Pelini. Im not inside, but perhaps the decision to hire and keep Pelini is above Strollo.  Tressel gets major passes. Its on him too and maybe more than Strollo.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Fire Pelini

« on: October 19, 2019, 06:23:43 PM »

hey just extended him, correct? Anyone know what they are on the hook for if they fire him? Enrollment drop created a big budget hole.  Will they be willing to pay 2 coaches under these circumstances? Seems safe as long as Tressel is around.  Pelini has been there long enough that this dumpster fire is all on him.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: transfer

« on: January 11, 2019, 05:33:57 PM »

Martell is on track to complete his degree in the Spring. So he will be a graduate transfer and immediately eligible wherever he goes. So the chances of him going to YSU are essentially zero.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: What is up? Why no announcement on keeping Pelini?

« on: December 07, 2018, 06:14:11 PM »

I subscribe to the Athletic. They do a profile of all FBS coaching vacancies along with potential candidates. So far the actual hires have come from their list of candidates. The writer seems very well connected. Pelini has not been mentioned in terms of any vacancy despite general ten or so candidates. The openings are filled with young up and comers or coaches with obvious direct connections to the places in question.  The parade may have passed him by plus he has alot of baggage. Universities dont want off the field trouble.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Indiana State

« on: October 30, 2018, 10:34:27 AM »

Given that Valley football is not what it used to be(doesnt matter why), the approach of the football program should be to hire assistants who have connections outside the Valley, instead of cronies. 

One comment about Powell.  It is indeed the location of Polaris, but using it as a hometown hides the fact that there numerous growing communities in and around it that have increasingly strong football programs. The town itself may have 12,000 people, but those kids are from the town in name only. THere is no Powell HS for example.

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YSU Penguin Athletics / Re: Indiana State

« on: October 27, 2018, 05:32:43 PM »

Its no coincidence that whenever Pelini pulls one of his unsportsmanlike conduct penalties that the team quits playing.  Its putting himself above the team--great trait for a football coach.  Clear that he cant handle the challenges of coaching at this level.  Some of you go to practices.Does the team really practice hard? Or does the effort reflect what happens on Saturdays?