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Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Reply #105 on: December 16, 2023, 07:43:16 PM »
Well, the offenses  have is finally woke up, but the defense is still stink and can’t stop them

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Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Reply #106 on: December 16, 2023, 07:50:55 PM »
The crowd at the Montana NDSU game is fantasic, kudos to the Griz fans!

26,544 fans at the game and they have 19,000 season ticket holders. That's a lot of extra cash to pay for coaches.

Yes the Grizz atmosphere was good.  All this game showed me was Montana wasn’t overrated.  Plus we would lose to both teams.

We will never know.
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Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Reply #107 on: December 17, 2023, 10:42:27 AM »
I just looked up the Albany-Villanova game. Villanova had five turnovers; Albany had none.

As others have noted, Villanova is the only CAA team that has the size and strength up front to compete in the MVFC. With James Madison and Delaware now gone, the CAA has become Villanova and the (fill-in the blank) dwarfs.

The CAA joins the Southern Conference, once the home of multiple championship teams Georgia Southern, Marshall, and Appalachian State, as a second rate FCS conference.

As we remain an irrelevant program in the irrelevant FCS.


Could’nt agree more I never understood the fascination of being in the fourth fifth or or six best team in a conference that we don’t fit in with no natural rivalries and very hard to travel. If we were in the CAA, we would be with Villanova like Dakotas, and be a top team every year and make the playoffs a lot easier and with that would come a higher seed and more home games instead of being a middle of pack team as we are now. But Mike was said in his post the FCS will become more irrelevant.   
I don’t see anything positive staying in the conference or wait. Maybe we should hang a banner Youngstown State plays in the toughest conference in FCS football and we made the playoffs three times in 20+ years ha ha ha ha we can put that next to the championship flags don’t get me wrong, I love Youngstown State but when you look at this from the big picture being in his Conference has been nothing but a failure look at this they brought in Murray state, not for football, but do the basketball program. Why aren’t we in? why aren’t we in this conference? I know the answer because we don’t have the money that the schools have for the most part that’s another story but again hey, we played a toughest conference and FCS and congratulations for that and let’s be honest we got a bottom feeder playoff team as a reward we would opened up on the road  against Villanova we have been one and done but again I’m still pro these guys and I understand we’re never gonna leave the conference as long as the AD supports it .  Another thing just because those teams suck. I got to the final four doesn’t matter. It just proves my point due to a conference got them to that point they didn’t have to beat their heads into the wall like we have done year after year hoping praying that we get in.  Go penguins.

So what options do you have?

1. Move to a supposedly easier conference. Well would that not be an embarrassment? Look at how people here attacked WIU? You know that they only moved because they needed a conference that can support all of their sports. They were a power in the MVFC for years. Despite the OVC/Big south conference heading for twice our size, they only one team is going to make the play-off. MVFC had what? 6 teams?

2. Join the MAC? Well then I am no longer anything but a dedicated TV watcher and radio listener, as I do not have the ability to attend weekday games..

3. I mean the 3 bowl games that they have had so far were basically unknown to anyone on TV. Yet they were all above the level of the MAC. Heck, the second place team in the MAC gets a better game than the winner.. They get a Big-10 team. Although this is a record year for the MAC and he number of bowl games.

4. Miami (MAC Champion) brags about coach Martin's 6 national championships in the past 20-years. This is in their program and bio.  Funny, not one of those came from his time with Miami. They were all from Grand Valley State (D-II) and his prior NAIA championship. I mean he has been with Miami for 10+ years, about time they started talking about his accomplishments at Miami.

5. The head coach of the best team in FCS/I-AA is leaving to be a position coach at a big-10 school..
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Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Reply #108 on: December 17, 2023, 12:37:35 PM »
1AA, I am thinking that long awaited major shakeup is getting near. Not going to look like I thought it would. With   the conference hopping that has been going on and the money that will soon be paid to every player the P4 will separate from the pretenders and will be 1A.

The pretenders (aka low-end 1A) will be the new 1AA.

Current 1AA will in effect become 1AAA.

Question for YSU will be if they will want to move to the new 1AA or stay where they are, basically the new 1AAA. Guessing that we will stay. So what will the other, current 1AA schools do? Depending on how that plays out we would then worry about the best league for YSU.
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Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Reply #109 on: December 17, 2023, 01:28:59 PM »
I just looked up the Albany-Villanova game. Villanova had five turnovers; Albany had none.

As others have noted, Villanova is the only CAA team that has the size and strength up front to compete in the MVFC. With James Madison and Delaware now gone, the CAA has become Villanova and the (fill-in the blank) dwarfs.

The CAA joins the Southern Conference, once the home of multiple championship teams Georgia Southern, Marshall, and Appalachian State, as a second rate FCS conference.

As we remain an irrelevant program in the irrelevant FCS.


Could’nt agree more I never understood the fascination of being in the fourth fifth or or six best team in a conference that we don’t fit in with no natural rivalries and very hard to travel. If we were in the CAA, we would be with Villanova like Dakotas, and be a top team every year and make the playoffs a lot easier and with that would come a higher seed and more home games instead of being a middle of pack team as we are now. But Mike was said in his post the FCS will become more irrelevant.   
I don’t see anything positive staying in the conference or wait. Maybe we should hang a banner Youngstown State plays in the toughest conference in FCS football and we made the playoffs three times in 20+ years ha ha ha ha we can put that next to the championship flags don’t get me wrong, I love Youngstown State but when you look at this from the big picture being in his Conference has been nothing but a failure look at this they brought in Murray state, not for football, but do the basketball program. Why aren’t we in? why aren’t we in this conference? I know the answer because we don’t have the money that the schools have for the most part that’s another story but again hey, we played a toughest conference and FCS and congratulations for that and let’s be honest we got a bottom feeder playoff team as a reward we would opened up on the road  against Villanova we have been one and done but again I’m still pro these guys and I understand we’re never gonna leave the conference as long as the AD supports it .  Another thing just because those teams suck. I got to the final four doesn’t matter. It just proves my point due to a conference got them to that point they didn’t have to beat their heads into the wall like we have done year after year hoping praying that we get in.  Go penguins.

So what options do you have?

1. Move to a supposedly easier conference. Well would that not be an embarrassment? Look at how people here attacked WIU? You know that they only moved because they needed a conference that can support all of their sports. They were a power in the MVFC for years. Despite the OVC/Big south conference heading for twice our size, they only one team is going to make the play-off. MVFC had what? 6 teams?

2. Join the MAC? Well then I am no longer anything but a dedicated TV watcher and radio listener, as I do not have the ability to attend weekday games..

3. I mean the 3 bowl games that they have had so far were basically unknown to anyone on TV. Yet they were all above the level of the MAC. Heck, the second place team in the MAC gets a better game than the winner.. They get a Big-10 team. Although this is a record year for the MAC and he number of bowl games.

4. Miami (MAC Champion) brags about coach Martin's 6 national championships in the past 20-years. This is in their program and bio.  Funny, not one of those came from his time with Miami. They were all from Grand Valley State (D-II) and his prior NAIA championship. I mean he has been with Miami for 10+ years, about time they started talking about his accomplishments at Mimi.

5. The head coach of the best team in FCS/I-AA is leaving to be a position coach at a big-10 school..

You know not every MAC game is during the week right?

Kent state only had 1 home game on a Wednesday and so did Akron,

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Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Reply #110 on: December 17, 2023, 02:50:06 PM »
Why would be an embarrassment to join or start another league.  WHATS EMBARRASSING is being in a league with no natural rivalry and we made what 3 playoff appearances in 23 years and declining attendance and interest.

I don’t think there will be 3 different D1’s.  With NIL and TV contracts it’s going to hurt FCS even more.  We are in a bad spot with that.  I think if anything with declining enrollment and let’s not forget most of our athletic budget is paid by the students.  We are no better than the MAC .  Just a smaller budget we can barely afford
 
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Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Reply #111 on: December 17, 2023, 03:16:13 PM »
Based on the fact that only 3,500 people cared that YSU had a home playoff game, changing conferences would only be an issue to people that hang on to “MVFC is the best conference “ as a source of pride.  Nova could end up in a similar situation. The CAA is a shadow of its former self. If they decided to move to the Patriot League, would any of the 2,915 fans that cared to go to the YSU playoff game really care? To me the mentioned attendance figures are proof of how irrelevant this level of football has become to the casual fans and even the students at the schools.

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Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Reply #112 on: December 18, 2023, 06:49:41 AM »
I just looked up the Albany-Villanova game. Villanova had five turnovers; Albany had none.

As others have noted, Villanova is the only CAA team that has the size and strength up front to compete in the MVFC. With James Madison and Delaware now gone, the CAA has become Villanova and the (fill-in the blank) dwarfs.

The CAA joins the Southern Conference, once the home of multiple championship teams Georgia Southern, Marshall, and Appalachian State, as a second rate FCS conference.

As we remain an irrelevant program in the irrelevant FCS.


Could’nt agree more I never understood the fascination of being in the fourth fifth or or six best team in a conference that we don’t fit in with no natural rivalries and very hard to travel. If we were in the CAA, we would be with Villanova like Dakotas, and be a top team every year and make the playoffs a lot easier and with that would come a higher seed and more home games instead of being a middle of pack team as we are now. But Mike was said in his post the FCS will become more irrelevant.   
I don’t see anything positive staying in the conference or wait. Maybe we should hang a banner Youngstown State plays in the toughest conference in FCS football and we made the playoffs three times in 20+ years ha ha ha ha we can put that next to the championship flags don’t get me wrong, I love Youngstown State but when you look at this from the big picture being in his Conference has been nothing but a failure look at this they brought in Murray state, not for football, but do the basketball program. Why aren’t we in? why aren’t we in this conference? I know the answer because we don’t have the money that the schools have for the most part that’s another story but again hey, we played a toughest conference and FCS and congratulations for that and let’s be honest we got a bottom feeder playoff team as a reward we would opened up on the road  against Villanova we have been one and done but again I’m still pro these guys and I understand we’re never gonna leave the conference as long as the AD supports it .  Another thing just because those teams suck. I got to the final four doesn’t matter. It just proves my point due to a conference got them to that point they didn’t have to beat their heads into the wall like we have done year after year hoping praying that we get in.  Go penguins.

So what options do you have?

1. Move to a supposedly easier conference. Well would that not be an embarrassment? Look at how people here attacked WIU? You know that they only moved because they needed a conference that can support all of their sports. They were a power in the MVFC for years. Despite the OVC/Big south conference heading for twice our size, they only one team is going to make the play-off. MVFC had what? 6 teams?

2. Join the MAC? Well then I am no longer anything but a dedicated TV watcher and radio listener, as I do not have the ability to attend weekday games..

3. I mean the 3 bowl games that they have had so far were basically unknown to anyone on TV. Yet they were all above the level of the MAC. Heck, the second place team in the MAC gets a better game than the winner.. They get a Big-10 team. Although this is a record year for the MAC and he number of bowl games.

4. Miami (MAC Champion) brags about coach Martin's 6 national championships in the past 20-years. This is in their program and bio.  Funny, not one of those came from his time with Miami. They were all from Grand Valley State (D-II) and his prior NAIA championship. I mean he has been with Miami for 10+ years, about time they started talking about his accomplishments at Mimi.

5. The head coach of the best team in FCS/I-AA is leaving to be a position coach at a big-10 school..

You know not every MAC game is during the week right?

Kent state only had 1 home game on a Wednesday and so did Akron,

You have to wonder how much of that is fan apathy? A couple years back, it seemed like Buffalo was on every week.

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Re: NCAA Playoffs Week 2: YSU at Villanova Saturday 12/2 at 12pm
« Reply #113 on: December 18, 2023, 12:57:11 PM »
No one is talking about this, but how is recruiting going?