SkunkApeKiller Manifesto 2.0

[skunkapekiller]

MERGE CONFERENCE USA/ MOUNTAIN WEST/ WAC/ FCS

NORTH

IDAHO
SAN JOSE STATE
MONTANA
MONTANA STATE
NORTH DAKOTA
NORTH DAKOTA STATE
PORTLAND STATE
SACRAMENTO STATE


SOUTH

TULANE
ALABAMA-BIRMINGHAM
TULSA
RICE
TEXAS-EL PASO
SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI
LA-TECH
NEW MEXICO STATE

EAST

MARSHALL
EAST CAROLINA
APPALACHIAN STATE
DELAWARE
JAMES MADISON
LIBERTY
OLD DOMINION
UNC-CHARLOTTE

WEST

WYOMING
COLORADO STATE
NEVADA-LAS VEGAS
NEVADA-RENO
UTAH STATE
NEW MEXICO
FRESNO STATE
HAWAII



MERGE SUN BELT/ MAC/ FCS

NORTH

MIAMI
BOWLING GREEN
BALL STATE
TOLEDO
NORTHERN ILLINOIS
WESTERN MICHIGAN
CENTRAL MICHIGAN
EASTERN MICHIGAN

SOUTH

FLORIDA ATLANTIC
FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
FLORIDA A&M
GEORGIA STATE
SOUTH ALABAMA
ARKANSAS STATE
TROY
GEORGIA SOUTHERN


EAST

KENT STATE
AKRON
OHIO
BUFFALO
MASSACHUSETTS
MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE
WESTERN KENTUCKY
YOUNGSTOWN STATE


WEST

TEXAS-SAN ANTONIO
TEXAS-ARLINGTON
NORTH TEXAS
TEXAS STATE-SAN MARCOS
LAMAR
LA-MONROE
LA-LAFAYETTE
UC-SAN DIEGO?

each two conferences has two semi's  and one confererance championship game...play seven in division games and one cross division game (youngstown versus toledo?) per year...


then for starting a playoff system here we go

mwc/conferece usa merged conferene gets 1 auto bid from those 32
sunbelt/mac/ merged conference gets 1 auto bid from those 32 teams
pac 12 gets 2 auto bids
big 12 gets 2 auto bids
big 10 gets 2 auto bids
big east gets 2 auto bids
acc gets 2 auto bids
sec gets 2 auto bids
2 at large bids

Teams that don’t make the national tourney can still play the O’Grady Bucket o’ Chicken Bowl and so forth?
16 teams make the national tourney with eight homes games at the highest seeds. the next four games are played neutral sites (bowls)..one game at the peach bowl, one at the cotton bowl, one at the orange bowl, and one at the gator bowl.
The next two are at the fiesta bowl and the rose bowl.

The national title game would be at the Sugar Bowl.

roughly 143 schools have a legit shot at winning a national title!!!!

easy as that---the skunkapekiller manifesto 2.0

[IAA Fan]

It would draw some attention if you used a better title   Not a bad idea, but it will not improve attendance and media attention.

[skunkapekiller]

why wouldn't it increase attendance?  for a team like youngstown your getting closer regional rivalries, less travel (more away teams fans coming to your campus), and a chance at making the national tournament?

my question is why isn't ysu already in the mac, does ysu want to be in the mac, and is their bad blood between other Mac (Ohio) schools that would keep ysu out all at all costs?

[GuinsAndNoles]

Too many bad FCS programs on that list, and you aren't gonna take FAMU out of the MEAC. Some of these mid-majors would be playing much lower competition and would be very unhappy. Also, while it would be fun to play the MAC teams, I think I would really miss the playoffs. Even in this scenario, we would never legitimately compete for a title.

[skunkapekiller]

Too many bad FCS programs on that list, and you aren't gonna take FAMU out of the MEAC. Some of these mid-majors would be playing much lower competition and would be very unhappy. Also, while it would be fun to play the MAC teams, I think I would really miss the playoffs. Even in this scenario, we would never legitimately compete for a title.

Most if not all of the FCS schools on this list will want to or will study a move up to FBS.  My proposal only works if their is a true playoff system bc i agree with you that fcs playoffs are way better than the Meineke Bowl.  I tried to group most ofthe mid-major (and i say that with a smile bc there isn't much difference between all the 64 schools on this list) teams together to keep travel down and create/keep regional rivalries.

[OleYSUfan]

The idea has merit, but will not work in the real world of monies and associations. The FBS schools will not vote to demote themselves to the FCS level. Most FBS schools have devoted years and a great deal of money to get into the FBS level.

Yes, most of us YSU fans would love to get into the MAC, but that was shot down by the MAC Presidents in the mid 90's. Kent State and Akron both vetoed YSU from entering the MAC.

Maybe a good conference will materialize in the future, but it will only happen if YSU becomes a constistent winner and decides to spent $$ to get there.

[IAA Fan]

why wouldn't it increase attendance?  for a team like youngstown your getting closer regional rivalries, less travel (more away teams fans coming to your campus), and a chance at making the national tournament?

my question is why isn't ysu already in the mac, does ysu want to be in the mac, and is their bad blood between other Mac (Ohio) schools that would keep ysu out all at all costs?

Sorry, my fault in the way I phrased that. I am talking about the entire level. For the Guins, it would be nice. The national media would just see the division as they do now ...second-class. I still take extreme issue with this the removal of "I-AA" terminology, in favor of "FCS".

[skunkapekiller]

The idea has merit, but will not work in the real world of monies and associations. The FBS schools will not vote to demote themselves to the FCS level. Most FBS schools have devoted years and a great deal of money to get into the FBS level.

Yes, most of us YSU fans would love to get into the MAC, but that was shot down by the MAC Presidents in the mid 90's. Kent State and Akron both vetoed YSU from entering the MAC.

Maybe a good conference will materialize in the future, but it will only happen if YSU becomes a constistent winner and decides to spent $$ to get there.

No one is being demoted in this proposal...just a few quality FCS school move  up and realign to cut down on travel, put students in the classroom more, and buidl on some regional rivalries instead of flying half way around the world for Idaho to play La-Tech.  A handful of teams are leaving FCS football for FBS every year.  This trend will continue because FCS has some issues themselves.  South Alabama, Western Kentucky, UT-SA, Texas State, to name a few have moved up and schools like Georgia State and UMass are gonna move in the next year or two. UNC-Charlotte is starting a FCS team this year with moving up to FBS a few years down the road (a lock for gettign into CONF-USA).

[GuinsAndNoles]

This actually wouldn't be so bad, as we could make a playoff run to win our conference, potentially. As for a move to the MAC, with the "de-geographization" of conferences these days, maybe the Sun Belt would like a northern presence? We recruit heavily in Florida now anyway -- might make that an easier sell. I realize it defeats the reason many people want us in the MAC (natural rivals, travel, etc.), and I'm not sure I want the New Orleans Bowl to be the ultimate goal each year, but it is 1a/FBS.

[skunkapekiller]

sounds like georgia southern is going to move up?

[ysuguins4]

Wow.  That's some manifesto.  What happens with the rest of the FCS schools?  Do they stay D1 or drop down to D2?

[skunkapekiller]

You would still have about 120 schools playing  for the FCS or Div1AA title...  over the years some teams would still move up and some would drop down...

[skunkapekiller]

The new Big East after it raids the MWC again

BIG EAST

EAST

SOUTH FLORIDA
CENTRAL FLORIDA
NAVY
ARMY
AIR FORCE
RUTGERS
UCONN
UMASS
VILLANOVA
TEMPLE

WEST

SAN DIEGO STATE
BOISE STATE
FRESNO STATE
UNLV
HAWAII
HOUSTON
MEMPHIS
CINCINATI
LOUISVILLE
SMU

then it leads to skunkapekiller3.0

MERGE CONFERENCE USA/ MOUNTAIN WEST/ WAC/ FCS

NORTH

IDAHO
MONTANA
MONTANA STATE
NORTH DAKOTA
NORTH DAKOTA STATE
PORTLAND STATE
SACRAMENTO STATE


SOUTH

TULANE
ALABAMA-BIRMINGHAM
TULSA
RICE
TEXAS-EL PASO
SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI
NORTH TEXAS STATE

EAST

MARSHALL
EAST CAROLINA
APPALACHIAN STATE
DELAWARE
JAMES MADISON
OLD DOMINION
UNC-CHARLOTTE

WEST

WYOMING
COLORADO STATE
SAN JOSE STATE
NEVADA-RENO
UTAH STATE
NEW MEXICO
NEW MEXICO STATE










MERGE SUN BELT/ MAC/ FCS

NORTH

BOWLING GREEN
BALL STATE
TOLEDO
NORTHERN ILLINOIS
WESTERN MICHIGAN
CENTRAL MICHIGAN
EASTERN MICHIGAN

SOUTH

FLORIDA ATLANTIC
FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
FLORIDA  A & M
TROY
SOUTH ALABAMA
GEORGIA STATE
GEORGIA SOUTHERN


EAST

MIAMI
KENT STATE
AKRON
OHIO
BUFFALO
YOUNGSTOWN STATE
WESTERN KENTUCKY



WEST

TEXAS-SAN ANTONIO
TEXAS STATE-SAN MARCOS
MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE
LA-MONROE
LA-LAFAYETTE
LA-TECH
ARKANSAS STATE

[skunkapekiller]

delaware's ad denies that they have been contacted about joining conf-usa...which means they have been contacted by conf-usa. 

[skunkapekiller]

                      SKUNKAPEKILLER MANIFESTO 2.0


MOUNTAIN WEST CONFERENCE


NORTH DIVISION

IDAHO
MONTANA
MONTANA STATE
NORTH DAKOTA
NORTH DAKOTA STATE
PORTLAND STATE
SACRAMENTO STATE

SOUTH DIVISION

WYOMING
COLORADO STATE
SAN JOSE STATE
NEVADA-RENO
UTAH STATE
NEW MEXICO
NEW MEXICO STATE



CONFERENCE USA


EAST DIVISION

MARSHALL
OLD DOMINION
FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
UNC-CHARLOTTE
SOUTHERN MISS
ALABAMA-BIRMINGHAM
EAST CAROLINA

WEST DIVISION

TULSA
RICE
TEXAS STATE
NORTH TEXAS
UT-SAN ANTONIO
LA-TECH
TULANE



MID AMERICAN CONFERENCE

EAST DIVISION

MIAMI
KENT STATE
AKRON
OHIO
BUFFALO
UMASS
YOUNGSTOWN STATE

WEST DIVISION

BOWLING GREEN
BALL STATE
TOLEDO
NORTHERN ILLINOIS
WESTERN MICHIGAN
CENTRAL MICHIGAN
EASTERN MICHIGAN


SUN BELT CONFERENCE


EAST DIVISION

FLORIDA ATLANTIC
APPALACHIAN STATE
GEORGIA STATE
GEORGIA SOUTHERN
LIBERTY
JAMES MADISON
DELAWARE



WEST DIVISION

WESTERN KENTUCKY
MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE
LA-MONROE
LA-LAFAYETTE
SOUTH ALABAMA
ARKANSAS STATE
TROY




ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE

NORTH DIVISION

VIRGINIA
VIRGINIA TECH
BOSTON COLLEGE
SYRACUSE
CONNECTICUT
RUTGERS
PITTSBURGH

SOUTH DIVISION

NORTH CAROLINA
NORTH CAROLINA STATE
DUKE
GEORGIA TECH
MARYLAND
MIAMI
WAKE FOREST


BIG 10 CONFERENCE

EAST DIVISION

MINNESOTA
WISCONSIN
INDIANA
ILLINOIS
NORTHWESTERN
PURDUE

WEST DIVISION

IOWA
MICHIGAN
MICHIGAN STATE
PENN STATE
NEBRASKA
OHIO STATE


BIG 12 CONFERENCE

NORTH DIVISION

TEXAS
TEXAS TECH
BAYLOR
OKLAHOMA STATE
OKLAHOMA
IOWA STATE
KANSAS
KANSAS STATE


SOUTH DIVISION

TEXAS CHRISTIAN
BRIGHAM YOUNG
CLEMSON
FLORIDA STATE
NOTRE DAME
BOISE STATE
LOUISVILLE
WEST VIRGINIA



BIG EAST CONFERENCE

EAST DIVISION

TEMPLE
VILLANOVA
CINCINNATI
MEMPHIS
SOUTH FLORIDA
CENTRAL FLORIDA
ARMY
NAVY

WEST DIVISION

AIR FORCE
SAN DIEGO STATE
SMU
HOUSTON
FRESNO STATE
UNLV
HAWAII
UTEP




PACIFIC 12 CONFERENCE

NORTH DIVISION

WASHINTON STATE
WASHINGTON
OREGON
OREGON STATE
STANFORD
CALIFORNIA-BERKELY

SOUTH DIVISION

ARIZONA
ARIZONA STATE
CALIFORNIA-LOS ANGELES
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
COLORADO
UTAH


SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE

WEST DIVISION

ARKANSAS
MISSOURI
TEXAS A&M
VANDERBILT
LOUISIANA STATE
KENTUCKY
TENNESSEE

EAST DIVISION

MISSISSIPPI
MISSISSIPPI STATE
GEORGIA
SOUTH CAROLINA
AUBURN
ALABAMA
FLORIDA






*CONFERENCE USA / MOUNTAIN WEST AND SUN BELT / MAC SCHEDULING

      6 CONFERENCE GAMES / 2 FLEX GAMES (1 NORTH TEAM PLAYS 1 SOUTH TEAM / 1 EAST TEAM PLAYS 1 WEST TEAM)

      2 SEMI-FINAL HOME GAMES (AWARDED TO DIVISION WITH BEST WINNING % DURING FLEX PLAY)

      1 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (ALTERNATE EACH YEAR BETWEEN THE DIVISIONS)


*ALL OF OTHER CONFERENCES PLAY 7 CONFERENCE GAMES / 3 OUT-OF-CONFERENCE GAMES / AND 1 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
*ALL 3 OOC GAMES ARE AGAINST TEAMS FROM THE OTHER BIG 6 CONFERENCES (AND INDEPENDENTS).




               
16 TEAMS MAKE THE NATIONAL TOURNAMENT
124 TEAMS THAT DON'T MAKE NATIONAL TOURNAMENT STILL CAN GET INVITES TO ALL EXISTING BOWLS
                  



CONF-USA / MWC       1 AUTOMATIC BID
SUN BELT / MAC         1 AUTOMATIC BID
BIG EAST                    1 AUTOMATIC BID
ACC                           1 AUTOMATIC BIDS
BIG 12                       3 AUTOMATIC BIDS
PAC12                       3 AUTOMATIC BIDS
BIG 10                       3 AUTOMATIC BIDS                         
SEC                           3 AUTOMATIC BIDS
                                 



ROUND OF 16 (EIGHT HOME GAMES TO HIGHEST SEEDS)

1.  ALABAMA                      V         16. YOUNGSTOWN STATE
2.  LSU                              V         15.  WYOMING
3.  TEXAS                          V         14.  HOUSTON
4.  FLORIDA STATE            V         13.  MIAMI
5.  USC                              V         12.  UCLA
6.  OHIO STATE                 V         11. MICHIGAN
7.  ARKANSAS                   V         10.  OREGON
8.  OKLAHOMA                  V          9.  WISCONSIN

ROUND OF 8 (BOWL SITES)

1.  LSU                             V        8. ARKANSAS       (ORANGE BOWL)
2.  TEXAS                         V        7. OKLAHOMA      (COTTON  BOWL)
3. FLORIDA STATE            V       5.  OREGON          (GATOR  BOWL)
4. ALABAMA                      V       6. USC                   (PEACH BOWL)

ROUND OF 4 (BOWL SITES)--ROTATION BETWEEN THE 3 FIESTA, ROSE, AND SUGAR BOWLS

1.  LSU             V    4.  TEXAS                      (FIESTA BOWL)
2.  ALABAMA     V    3.  FLORIDA STATE        (ROSE BOWL)

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP (JAN 1ST)

1. LSU    V    2.   ALABAMA   (SUGAR BOWL)